On April 16 Nothingtosay wrote: Proxies Certain people consider anything thats a proxy to be cheese but I don't like this deffinition either because I generally see cheese strategies as "All in" and not all proxy's are.
Would everyone please shut up about "cheese" "raging" "BM" "Imba" and such? So uh, how is your definition different from Liquipeia? High risk, high return early attack. Live Events Online Event. CranKy Ducklings Liquipedia Discussion. Sziky 13 Hyun Fnx DGminise jkaem Moscow Cybersport Series. GeNieS vs Bee. ESL Pro Tour. Serral vs ShoWTimE. Maru vs Nice. Shinhan Tank Proleague.
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Not only that, it'll improve your gameplay as a player, so I think cheese happening on the ladder is a good thing. I really don't get it. I am still a newby so try to explain it to me.. What is wrong with taking that chance? You won, but now the other player is mad that you cheesed.
On February 23 nizz wrote: I really don't get it. I hate cheese in ladder scenarios because I don't really have consistent practice partners so I depend on the ladder. Cheese, win or lose, basically prevents me from practicing the things I'd like to practice, which is why it frustrates me so much. Granted, I know I need to find people to practice with, but the reality with my schedule is that the ladder is the best I can do a lot of the time.
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IEM Winter First off let me start off by saying that I personally do not believe in the word "cheese strategies", I believe this game is made well balanced that anything can happen for a reason that is a reasonable strategy and there is no "cheat strategies" in this game, and if there was Blizzard would do something about it. All so called cheese strategies and be easily countered by any decent player, but can quickly kill your below average player quite quickly. In short, cheese is some sort of early "all-in" strategy that can be very hard to defend against, but often results in a loss if it fails.
There are 5 major cheeses in Starcraft 2: Protoss - Cannon Rush Protoss player gets a forge instead of a gateway, and attempts to build photon cannons in the opponents base. Counters: For any race, scouting the probe and killing it before it can build a photon cannon is your first priority. As Terrans:. It will be complete long before the cannons are, and you can stick marines in it to fight off the cannons.
Even if the bunker starts taking heavy fire, you can still repair it, while the enemy probe can only watch as his cannons slowly get whittled down by the marines. Then just continue your standard game as if nothing happened, although you will want to get siege tanks quickly to outrange and destroy those cannons and pylons, or else the enemy will get tons of warp gates and build his entire army behind your new base.
Protoss can try zealot rushing the towers or using photon cannons themselves to prevent them from further cannoning your base. Zerg can build a row of spine crawlers to accomplish the same thing. You can also send a small wave of fighting units over to your opponents base to kill off his workers to halt his production, since he will probably have no protection over there.
Protoss - Gateway Proxy Rush Protoss player sends one of his initial probes into the opponent's base and hides his first pylon there. When the pylon is complete, he builds two gateways and then chrono boosts zealots to attack. Counters: Zerg need to get a few spine crawlers up ASAP in there mineral lines, and use their queen, drones, and any zerglings to halt the flow of zealots.
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